2 Marcus
Thanks a lot. Appreciate your help!!

2 Mila
You're welcome!

What is the difference between "ramp", "apron" and "tarmac" when we mean "перрон"?

Hi Mila and everyone!
Seems like they've "chained me to the airplane", so I probably wouldnt be able to visit this forum as often as earlier. But I'll drop in as it'll be possible.
See you!

Hi everyone!
To MSL
Well it's great that you can fly- I mean to work and be there clear blue skies on your route!! We will be glad to seE you whenever you are "here"... Good luck!

To Marcus
"RAMP"
Generally, the pre-flight activities are done in RAMPS;
"APRON"
are the areas for parking & maintenance. Passenger gates are the main feature of a terminal ramp.
The APRON is designated by the ICAO as not being part of the maneuvering area AND
the apron is not usually open to the general public.

"TARMAC" (short for tarmacadam, a portmanteau for tar-penetration macadam) is a type of highway surface. Tarmac is a variety of other materials, including tar-grouted macadam, Tarvia, bituminous surface treatments and even modern asphalt concrete.
I hope this will be OK?

2 Mila Love,
Thanks a lot!

2 Marcus
My pleasure.
It's being quiet for a while down here. Hope that everybody is all right...

Hi!
What foreign pilots say when taking off, I mean the moment when Russians say:
"Рубеж! Подьем!"
I could only recognize the word "rotate" (rotate what? or why? :-))) ) or
something sounds like that. For example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ...

Hi everyone,
Nice to be here again!

2 seafarer

"Rotate" is what pilots in Russia call "Подъем".
Why rotate? Because at that moment an airplane begins rotating about her horizontal axis. It's not that she makes a complete cycle of rotation but a small part of it.
Why "she"? In English such notions like "aircraft", "spacecraft" and "sea ship" are often spoken with the pronoun "she".
Mila, do I sound well right? )))

2 seafarer

To be more exact, a plane rotates about her LATERAL axis when her nose gear leaves runway surface while two other undercarriages still remain on it.

Hi everybody!
I think "rotate" is what they say. Perhaps ATC or pilots who fly overseas can add or correct.

Hi NN!
Nice to see you back on track ;-)))
How was your holiday??
Re:"she" as a pronoun.
I know for sure that we use "SHE" when we mention a boat or a ship, a vessel.
Can't tell the same re: the airplane. I think that more commomnly we use "it"....

Rather interesting article about "she"
Why We Call a Ship a She

By Rear Admiral Francis D. Foley, U.S. Navy (Retired)

Naval History, December 1998

A salty retired U.S. Navy flag officer shuns the current trend toward political correctness.Ships are referred to as "she" because men love them, but this encompasses far more than just that. Man-o'-war or merchantman, there can be a great deal of bustle about her as well as a gang of men on deck, particularly if she is slim-waisted, well-stacked, and has an inviting superstructure. It is not so much her initial cost as it is her upkeep that makes you wonder where you founder.

She is greatly admired when freshly painted and all decked out to emphasize her cardinal points. If an aircraft carrier, she will look in a mirror when about to be arrested, and will wave you off if she feels you are sinking too low or a little too high, day or night. She will not hangar around with duds, but will light you off and launch you into the wild blue yonder when you muster a full head of steam.

Even a submarine reveals her topsides returning to port, heads straight for the buoys, knows her pier, and gets her breast-lines out promptly if she is single-screwed. On departure, no ship leaves port asleep, she always leaves awake. She may not mind her helm or answer to the old man when the going gets rough, and can be expected to kick up her heels on a family squall.A ship costs a lot to dress, sometimes blows a bit of smoke, and requires periodic overhauls to extend her useful life.

Some have a cute fantail, others are heavy in the stern, but all have double-bottoms which demand attention. When meeting head-on, sound a recognition signal; whistle! If she does not answer up, come about and start laying alongside, but watch to see if her ship is slowing . . . perhaps her slip is showing? Then proceed with caution until danger of collision is over and you can fathom how much latitude she will allow.

If she does not remain on an even keel, let things ride, feel your way, and do not cross the line until you determine weather the "do" point is right for a prolonged blast. Get the feel of the helm, stay on the right tact, keep her so, and she will pay off handsomely. If she is in the roaring forties, however, you may be in the dangerous semi-circle, so do not expect much "luff," especially under bare poles. She may think you are not under command or control and shove off.

If she edges aweigh, keep her steady as she goes, but do not sink into the doldrums. Just remember that "to furnish a ship requireth much trouble, but to furnish a woman the cost is double!"To the women who now help us "man" our ships, my apologies for the foregoing. Only the opening phrase presents my true feelings. After all, a ship's bell(e) will always remain her most prized possession, and every good ship has a heart, just like yours.

A trick at the wheel, like you, would have been welcome aboard when I was on "she" duty for 40 years. May God bless you all, sweetheart!

Admiral Foley is a long-time contributor to Naval History and the U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings. He lives in Annapolis, Maryland.

Good Point! At Naval History's editorial offices, in the presence of the author, the editor reacted to the above with a resounding: "Most of our readers will love it; the women will hate it!" Coincidentally, the U.S. Naval Institute's chief financial officer, obviously sensitive to such statements, overheard and inquired: "The women will hate what?" She then heard of plans to publish "Why We Call a Ship a She." Unaware of the author's presence, she asked: "If they call ships she, then why do they name them Arleigh Burke?" To that, Admiral Foley responded, "Good point!"

TOPIC FOR THE DAY..
How do ATC and pilots greet each other!! Is there any kind of etiquette, I don't mean the standard procedures only....
I know that different airlines greet their passengers in their own ways. Some do not say anything until well enough airbourne, some are chatty from the very beginning....

Mila, it's all my pleasure to find myself back on this peacefull forum. )))
It dates back to those centuries when ships and boats were the only means of transport which made people feel admiration and even somewhat of delight by their beautiful lines and shapes. Later on, the aircraft and the spacecraft having been developed, those high feelings were sread on them too. Calling an airplane "she" might sound excessivly poetic though, you're right. )))

ATCs hear "Good morning", "Good afternoon", "Good evening" nearly every time when pilots make their first report entering a defifnite controlled area or sector. We greet them the same way. When planes leave their crew usually say "Bye sir" or merely "Bye-Bye". We tell them "have a smooth ride", "have a nice flight" or simply "goog luck" in return. When in congested air traffic and all seconds are counted, "bye" is the only possible form of politeness at parting. ATCs only talk to pilots, greeting passengers isn't in their competence.

2NN!
ATCs only talk to pilots, greeting passengers isn't in their competence.
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Thanks, of course I knew that.
Although some of our "ATC" in this forum are probably more language aware then those who are supposed to do the talking to their passengers ;-)))
Any pilots are here at all???

Mila,

Please pour some light on how to correctly call that rough part of the taxiway in the picture you can see here:

http://www.nizhnovg99.narod.ru ...

In Russian it wouldn't trouble me to call it "колдобина" )))))

2NN

From my point of view it's a "hidden dip" on the runway ;-)))or rather "bumpy ride"....
Where does this come from? Avia Quiz?

Mila,

Oh no! None of that. It is just my scribbles in "Paint" ))))))

"pothole(s)" is one of the options...
so bumps and dips/potholes- "бугры и колдобины"

If I were you I would also draw some bumps after dips...the picture of funny ride will be complete ;-)))and a sort of "bubble" aside or at the bottom "Have a nice ride!" ;-0
Only a joke!
Rather good drawing!!

Mila,
thanks for pleasure of talking with you. Unluckily I have to go.
Hope to be here tonight.
Bye!

Hi everyone!

Re: Why We Call a Ship a She
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As far as I know, the history of that roots from traditions of decoration of the sailing ships. A figurehead of a woman was installed on a stem under a bowsprit. It’s believed that she brings luck to a ship and her crew.

2MSL
Why do we call a ship a she?
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Hi, I believe that you are right!! And I would certainly not decorate the nose of the aircraft with any figurehead ;-))

I've heard recently somewhere...
"How is life treating you?"

Hi Mila! I am Boris - captain B-737NG. It was realy exciting to read your conversations with our pilots! Unfortunately, I am not often trying to write something. Normaly I am talking with somebody about aviation problems, just for practice. So I apologize for my mistakes, if so. But anyway, in my opinion, for our guys it is much more important to understand ATC controlers and, of course, each other, is not it? I think we shall communicate with you and other guys in future! See you soon ( I hope so... ).

How do ATC and pilots greet each other!! Is there any kind of etiquette, I don't mean the standard procedures only....
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The decency is to greet an ATC in his native language. For example: Moscow center, PHW 075 Dobryi den Oguta FL331.

Sorry, but I have never heard FL331 before. Is any change in ATC rules? With my respect...

Боби-Боба
Sorry, but I have never heard FL331 before. Is any change in ATC rules?
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My excuses, I's just a typo :-) I was in a hurry clicking "send"

Yet Oguta is point of level change. See what Jeppesen writes: Acfts have to execute Flight level changes from ICAO to Russian Flight level system and vise versa by ATC or:
- for westbound flights - after crossing the FIR boundary
- for eastbound flights BEFORE crossing the FIR boundary

StraightAhead

I was mostly satisfied with:

2m:06sec
ATC:615, turn right, heading 160
615:....(just pushed the button)

4m:07sec
ATC: 615,cleared....marker to establish localizer, approach RW23,.........
615: 615

4m:44sec
ATC: UNITED 246, descend and maintain 2300
UNITED 246: UNITED 246

7m:56sec
ATC: UNITED 246, contact Tower 120,5 have a good night
UNITED 246: ....(just pushed the button)
__________________________

It's all strictly against rules and SAFETY.

2MSL
....the history of that roots from traditions of decoration of the sailing ships. A figurehead of a woman ...
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I did play a bit with your sentence to look like as follows:


"...this tradition stems from the practice of decorating sailing ships with the figurehead of a woman. "

To MSL. I see, thanks a lot!

Hi Боби-Боба!
Nice to see you here and also hope to meet up with you from time to time, when time allows.;-)))

2 Mila
Nice to see you here!
It would be perfect if you edited my messages in this way before they appear on (or at?) the forum. I really understand that is too early for me to be an editor-in-chief of "The Times" due to my English :-)

Thank you, Mila! I will...

I really understand that it is....
Dont take it as illiteracy

Do not warry, MSL! Your English is very well! I am using my dictionary without hesitation. I hope you too...

I have a question. What is the difference between particles "in" an "un". For example:
incompetence, but unexpected. In Russian they both translates as "не". So why there is a difference in English?

There is no big difference for me. I am just trying to remember that - that,s it! What is the problem for you - НИкакой или НЕхороший? May be I am deadly wrong, but I think so! Mila! Where are you?

2 Боби-Боба
Do not warry, MSL! Your English is very well! I am using my dictionary without hesitation. I hope you too...
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Thanks for appreciation. Of course I use dictionary. But mostly to check myself late. They write Manchester read Liverpool. :-)
Let me afford a piece of advice about your sentence: "I am using my dictionary without hesitation". It means that you are using a dictionary right now, at the time of speaking (present continuous). If you want to underline that you use dictionary in general, each time you have to speak English it'll be better to use present indefinite: I usually use a dictionary without hesitation. Hope I haven't bothered you too much with my grammar offset :-)

It is correct! But in reality I am using Present Continuos and everybody understands me, like you. Is it a big thing for you?

GRAMMAR
un-, in-, dis-, ir-,im-,....
That's a bit tricky to say what is the difference. There are some basic rules but there are much more exceptions, so the easiest way to know is to familiarise yourself with common examples and to look up in "English Grammar in use" by Murphy and dictionaries as well.
1. An illegal drug - when the adj begins with "l"
2. Impossible to drive such a distance in one day
3. An unsuccessful attempt
4. Irresponsible behaviour - when the adj begins with "r"
5. A dress which was inappropriate for the occasion
6. Impolite behaviour
7. An irreligious family
8. A dishonest politician
9. Imperfect goods
10. Discontented with her life

Present Simple vers Present Continuous.
MSL is right re: ...
This is classical and traditionally correct way, you wouldn't have any trouble with it at all.
Боби-Боба you can say if you REPEATEDLY USE/or IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPMENT IT...so I see no big deal how to say it...
Nowdays when, even here in tradtionally conservative England, everybody tries to use simple language it's quite possible to use Continuous oftener than Simple/ Indefinite.

for some reason my previous post lacks the sentences...
MSl:I use my dicitonary every time I need it
Боби-Боба: I am using my dicitonary ...either now or repeatedly...

2 Mila
Tanks for your explanations. By the way "English Grammar in use" by Murphy is excellent thing. Tanks to it I felt a ground under my legs in English grammar.

2 Боби-Боба
I do comprehend how boring grammar is. And I believe there is no reason to feel shy to say something incorrect. Bur people will take you better if you express grammatically sharp.

Corrections
Bur = But
Tanks = Thanks
Funny missprints :-)

2MSL
I absolutely agree with you that "English Grammar in use" my R.Murphy for Intermediate and Advanced students is the "Bible" for language learners, as well as Essential English Grammar..
These are essentials that you need keep on hand all the time;-)))